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I do have a telecommuting job lined up, but in case anything happens, it would be good to know other opportunities in the area. Sorry, I know I threw a lot out there.
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If anyone can address any of the questions and share the opinions, I would appreciate it a lot. I'm still pondering my options, but I definitely know I will be packing my bags. Washington is just going down the tubes and it is really heartbreaking for me, because I actually really enjoyed growing up in the Pacific Northwest. I will definitely be coming back to the Cascade and Rocky mountains once a year for hiking trips, but this is just not a place I can live anymore.
Last edited by Rotserut; at PM. You'll have to wait for Tampa Bay locals to respond for some of your questions.
I would never consider living in the pacific northwest. The nearly constant gloomy skies must be pretty depressing most of the time. They need to raise the taxes Washington state to help pay for all the illegals and freeloaders that live in that liberal mecca!
No state income tax in Florida is really nice. But the insurance costs and fees in Florida are pretty high. Living near the coastline in Florida is going to cost you a lot more money. If you're telecommuting, do you need to live inside a major city, where the housing costs are typically much higher. If you live outside a major city, the housing costs will drop off as the commuting time to physical work locations increases. It's pretty hot and humid in the summer in Florida, but AC is everywhere to help you cope with the heat and humidity.
You might try a cost of living website to compare where you currently live to different areas in Florida to find out how much your income in the Seattle area is compared to Florida. Another thing to consider is the stability of the telecommuting job.
I used to telecommute every day, but management decisions cut that down to only one day a week. There was a time when I thought it might be possible to telecommute all winter from Florida, but management can quickly change the telecommuting policies without logical reasons.
There are 'old school' managers who 'think' they have to see you at the office working which could easily be not working talking to co-workers about sports all day for some office workers.
If you had to find an IT job in Florida, I've found that the pay is significantly less than in the upper Midwest snow belt. But I'm at a point in my life where I can easily retire, where most of my income is from investments, not working, due to extreme saving for two decades. You'll need to do a lot more research on the forum, and it's also a good idea to visit Florida several times, including in the middle of the hot and humid summer weather.
We could live in Florida all year, because summers in Florida aren't that bad, compared to winters in Minnesota.
But we plan to start as snowbirds because we can afford the extra costs of being snowbirds, plus we still have extended family back in Minnesota, that will be stuck in Minnesota for many years. Thanks for the response Davephan, it was helpful, even if you are not a native. Probably my post was either too verbose or confusing for others to answer here.
I was thinking I maybe should have made it a lot shorter. Washington state is a real mess and the entire Pacific Northwest is so much different from when I grew up here.
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Yeah, they are basically punishing all the people who help bring money into this state and welcoming all the illegals, drug addicts, mentally ill and other lazy free-loaders with open arms at everyone else's expense. But, the slick politicians and their big bold promises will appease the social justice warriors who feel they are saving the world. Of course, I have to keep my political views suppressed here.
I am a Libertarian, so I am pretty conservative on most issues, although maybe not like a Southern Baptist type of Republican conservative. As far as my telecommuting ventures, I will be working for the family business I helped build, so security should be good, but you just never know with small businesses in this day and age.
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Most likely, if my ventures fail and I am forced to work a job, I will probably have to move to North Carolina which is nearby and has a plentiful amount of software jobs. I've also done a lot of research about Raleigh and thought about moving there.
However, I hear Raleigh is kind of a bland, boring suburbia and there isn't much nature, like beas or mountains nearby. As well, I hear Raleigh gets very cold in the winter and very hot in the summer. You get Florida summers without the benefit of good winters and no beach nearby. But, if survival and putting food on the table is the main importance, at least other IT tech hubs are not far from Tampa. I have no wife, kids or anything holding me back and thinking about leaving most of my stuff in storage place I have in Idaho.
So, it wouldn't be hard to relocate at short notice. I pity that you have to be stuck in Minnesota, which is probably the last place on the Earth I would want to live.
I'm sure Minneapolis has its perksthe people are friendly and the lakes are nice. But, those brutal winters would just end my life prematurely. I don't think Minneapolis has great summers either from what I hear. But, it's nice to have family you care about.
My family is in Oregon and we are not so close and I will visit them probably just once a year and it will give me an excuse to go hiking in my beloved Cascade mountains where I grew up.
You might consider Western North Carolina. It's not the Cascades, but the Blue Ridge has its own charms. I think it's OK in Asheville. Location: Not the end of the Earth, but I can see it from here.
Originally Posted by Rotserut. I would die for them cloudy skies during our hell like summer. Wait till the OP gets a taste of our reverse west windflow during the summer. Best for the OP to come down in July and a spend a week here to see what the weather is really like.
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Wow, I really appreciate the responses, especially the very detailed one left by MortonR. Unfortunately, it sounds like from the various posters, especially Morton, that Tampa is nothing less than hell on earth. And, it sounds like everyone thinks Seattle is heaven on earth and only that is has bad weather a very short time of the year. Definitelynot true!
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Yes, we don't have the extremes, if you don't mind 8 months of cloud cover and dreary chilly weather. People wear jackets here in June, some years. I understand that many people are disgruntled where they live, I know I am, although I've lived in the Northwest most of my life. I'm sure there is a lot of credible and sobering advice and facts people are leaving here, but I do have to take everything with a grain of salt. I know its hard to compete against tourists and wealthy retirees and that sounds like the way Tampa is.
As far as people's misconceptions about Seattle and even Idaho, let me share as being a local from this region.
Seattle is anything but heaven on Earth. The mountains and nature are great, but you only can enjoy them for about months of the year. If you are a snow person, you will be in heaven, but I do not ski or snowboard and in general enjoy snow from a distance. When it is cold, windy and drizzly and even colder, windier and rainier up on the peaks, the last thing you want to do is get drend and muddy hiking. Not to mention it gets dark around 3PM in the winter.
THe daylight is limited. Temps sometimes don't go much above 50, even until June. It's weird. My body adapts well to heat and I have been in swampy 90F humid weather.
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